Posts by Rex B13

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testing my patience

by Mommie Dark in

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i got an unsolicited email from a dub recently.

she read my stories at free minds and recognized one of the characters.

my brief reply was taken as an excuse to question me about the possibility of my returning to the jws.

>This is the point I was trying to get across to someone when they expressed great concern about my revelation of no longer considering myself a Christian. Their attitude was insulting, insinuating that my lifestyle might radically change into one of selfish debauchery (not the exact phrase they used, but it sums it up) without the fear of a deity. I suppose it is an attitude prevalant in the Christian faith, but only amplified in high-control groups like the WTS.

You too miss one of the points. You (nor is anyone) are not and never have been a Christian. You were attempting to follow the leader and 'behave' like you thought a Christian should, without the guidance of the Holy Spirit. You aren't a Christian until you love Jesus and follow Him alone. Just getting 'fire insurance' against God's wrath is not what it takes to be a Christian.
You might want to review Romans 3.23; 6.23; 10.9-11; John 3.3; 3:16,17; 15.5-8; 8.31-32; 13.34-35, Ephesians 2.8,9, Rev. 3.20. Also, get a legitimate translation to read out of...
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God not only condoned mass murder, he ordered it

by Kent in

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god not only condoned mass murder, he ordered it .

i notice that many people here have claimed that "god is not a murderer.

god does not condone or plan the brutal murder of children!

Rex B13

As usual, you seem NOT to understand that God determines how long each one of us live. We are predestined to our limited time and have only enough free will to choose eternal life or eternal damnation.
We all will die on the day that God has determined. Is that so hard to get through your alcohol & drug addled brain?
You're taking what many consider to be Hebrew apologetics over their own sins and making it apply to all Christians. Even if the passages ARE literal it is within divine providence to judge creation!
Next, you make the same JW error over and over, ignoring the fact that the soul is immortal and we suffer only a physical death. Some people are better off dead, are they not, Kent baby?
Lastly, you keep telling us the Bible is a myth and if that is the case, why do YOU take it literal?
Rex

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"Special" meeting in October?

by Esmeralda in

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question.

my mother told my husband that there is to be a 'special meeting' in october at the local sports arena (same place as dc's are held here) and that "only publishers are allowed to attend" that they will get "special cards" for admission from their local congregation and have to hand them in to get into the building.

i have no idea if this has anything to do with the "annual meeting" they always have (isn't that generally in october?

Rex B13

You need to be working at your company computer, not reading posts. Thief! ;-)
Rex

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My stepfather died tonight

by Mulan in

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i have just finished making phone calls informing the family of the death of my stepfather.

i was an adult when he married my mother, but i loved him very much.

he was a wonderful man.. although he was a faithful jw, for his entire life (he was born to it) he was a really good man, and a true christian, i believe.

Rex B13

Sorry to hear of your loss....

>He would never have listened to us, and the things we now believe, if he had been in his right mind at the time. In recent months, he would laugh and say he thought we had a good point. Mom would say he didn't know what he was saying, and she was right.

He sounds like a man at peace with God, a man who knew Jesus as his Lord and savior. (Speculation) He may have known much more than you realize and he could see you were on the right track. I think that he was saved and is now in heaven with our Lord God Almighty.
Rex

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JW Kids Leave the Organization: Facts

by Maximus in

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the october 1 watchtower 2001 features articles on training children "properly" and dealing with a "prodigal child.

the latest inside u.s. figures reveal that 86% of jw children leave the fold, with some 29% who eventually come back for reasons of family ties, most never "reaching out.

" that means over half leave permanently.

Rex B13

>(I have a picture in my head of God sitting on his throne, desperately trying to come up with some legal basis for pardoning a wayward kid.)

Hi Max,
John 3.16,17 covers that quite well. Now think in these terms: God revealed Himself in the N.T. in the person of Jesus Christ and in the person of the Holy Spirit, which also ended the Law Covenant dispensation and began a new one, the Church Age.
We are ourselves pardoned for our sin (Romans 3.23, 6.23) by seeking a personal relationship with Christ (John 14.6, John 3.3, Rev. 3.20) and we are saved by grace through faith (Eph. 2.8,9) and by belief that Jesus is God (I am) (John 8.24, Phil. 2.6-11, John 8.58).
Those few scriptures encompass all of the plan of salvation, the REAL gospel that JWs don't preach.
Rex

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Comment to Fundie Sister-in-law

by Undecided in

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i have gotten a little mean in my old age.

my sister-in-law is a born again church of god life time member and sometimes is a little dogmatic.

i love to point out fallacies in her religious thinking.. this might have been a little unfeeling on my part but she was talking to my wife about a tragic happening in her life 26 years ago.

Rex B13

>She says God will have to reveal it to me. I'm waiting?

She has a point there, Ken. Your first step is to forget everything the Borg told you about other denominations. That is a real pile of crap.
Are you as amused as I am by the various riff-raff who chime in with insults directed at anyone with faith? I can always count on butterBoynenko, who probably fantasizes about spending a night with his hero, Alan F.
Rex

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Comment to Fundie Sister-in-law

by Undecided in

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i have gotten a little mean in my old age.

my sister-in-law is a born again church of god life time member and sometimes is a little dogmatic.

i love to point out fallacies in her religious thinking.. this might have been a little unfeeling on my part but she was talking to my wife about a tragic happening in her life 26 years ago.

Rex B13

T.J.
Do you happen to know the difference between an immortal soul and a resurrected person? Our immortal soul is not a completion, it is disembodied and will receive the spiritual body at the time of the rapture. The Jews understood this, JWs never have.
Un
I fight against death because my Lord has not brought me home yet. He has me here for a purpose. This existence is the best that the 'lost' can ever hope to have, and, it is the worst a saved person can have.
We do often talk and pray for the rapture, or for us to be taken home when God's will is such.
Willy
It stands to reason that God in His mercy would not hold to account anyone who has no ability to grasp the idea of who Christ really is. A retarded person is another example and there are many more. Those children who have died are all home and with God as are the others who are not held accountable. BTW, read John 8.24 in any Bible except the NWT. To be saved you must know Jesus as "I am" or God.
BTW, 'doubts' and turmoil are evidence of our sinful nature.
Rex

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Comment to Fundie Sister-in-law

by Undecided in

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i have gotten a little mean in my old age.

my sister-in-law is a born again church of god life time member and sometimes is a little dogmatic.

i love to point out fallacies in her religious thinking.. this might have been a little unfeeling on my part but she was talking to my wife about a tragic happening in her life 26 years ago.

Rex B13

You really blew it, Ken.
The woman was probably too nice to point out your ignorance of scripture and valid doctrine. You have been taught typical JW rationalism and you have no idea that the soul is immortal. Job knew that his dead loved ones had been called home to paradise (as the Jews believed, we know it as heaven) and he would see them in the afterlife. Plus, he had been blessed with even more when God restored things to him. He actually doubled his loved ones! Even those who are killed in earthly judgement are ahnging around in eternity, children are under no accountability.
Before you go making a fool of yourself again with a born-again Christian, you need to actually see what they believe and WHY they believe it!

Silverleaf,
You need to quit painting all with one, wide brush. People are individuals and not 'fundys'. You will not find any less variety there than any other group, just much less psycholgical problems and disfunctional personalities.
Rex

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